India - the Mother

July 29, 1953

(From a talk in which Mother explains how events are sometimes formed long before their actual occurrence.)

... I will give you an example that will perhaps make it clear to you. It must have been at some point of the year 1920. One day ... I used to meditate every day with Sri Aurobindo; he sat on one side of the table, and I sat on the other side, in the veranda. And one day, while in meditation, I went into ... (how can I put it?), I went very high, went very deep inside, or out of myself (put it any way you like, it won't express what happened, it's only manners of speaking), and I reached a place, or a state of consciousness, in which I said to Sri Aurobindo, just like that, very simply, "India is free." That was in 1920. Then he asked me one question, "How?" I replied, "Without struggle, without battle, without revolution: the English will leave of themselves, because the state of the world will be such that they will have no choice but to go away."

It was done. When he asked me the question, I put it in the future, but where I saw, I said "India is free," it was a fact. But India was not free at the time: it was 1920. Yet it was there, it was done. And it happened in 1947. Which means that from a physical, external point of view, I saw it twenty-seven years later.

[A child asks.] Could you see Pakistan?

No, because the liberation could have taken place without Pakistan. In fact, if they had listened to Sri Aurobindo, there would not have been any Pakistan.

Questions and Answers (1953): 29 July 1953