India - the Mother

October 7, 1967

Sri Aurobindo once said (jokingly, as it were), while talking with those around him (I was there and we were talking about Christianity and the "new Christ"), he told them, "Oh, if the new Christ comes, the Church will crucify him!"

... Why are people hypnotized by the past? It's strange. The thing was very interesting when it came, of course, very necessary; it had to come, it did its work—but now it's over.

They don't know how to move on. They just sit down like that—"Now I've found it! I'll sit down and won't budge." (Mother laughs)

Sri Aurobindo always used to say, "I don't want people to do the same thing with what I have said...."

One must always go farther.

... A "leading light" of the Church said to me [in France], "But what do you know! You belong to the universal Roman Church." I told him (laughing), "Well, I don't mind, that doesn't bother me!"

But they're a nuisance with their Church!

(Mother laughs) They're like that.

Rome!... But Rome was a non-existent foetus when there had already been millennia of wisdom.

But Rome is nothing! I don't know why in Europe they attach so much importance to this whole affair....

The world begins with them

Even from the standpoint of culture, Rome was far inferior to Greece.... I don't know why—but it's the case of all the Latin countries, I think.

They put everything upside down.

... And when they are too small to swell themselves up, they enter religion and swell it up: they turn it into an enormous thing that dominates the world.

Ah, never mind, if they find it amusing ...

(After a silence) What do these people call "sin," to begin with? What is sin? When I am told about sin, I answer, "You know, sin is not being Divine."

So the whole world is in sin!

Mother's Agenda: October 7, 1967